Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

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Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby Snovid » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:24 am

I discovered something weird.

Practicing guruyogafor 5 minutes
I have not noticed any change in me

but when I started to sing the Song of the Vajra repeatedly
and I did it for half an hour,while singing I felt a little dizzy and delicate nausea.

but it is not everything

Now every night I have the same dream
ie the characters and scenery are different
but I always fighting with someone.

I find myself in a cave or underground temples armory
sometimes these are the armory of the future, cyber, like the Star Trek

I fight using some white blades
another time I shoot with a strange computer equipment

Today I dreamed about a priest who tried to kill me
wanted to rent killers but I killed him first
I hid the body in old house in such a way that no one will never find
I went out into the street and I started to wonder how to clean my karma.

I remember a magazine with the robot sniper guard
He hunted for me and I hunted for him
First I liquidated a few another guards.

This is normal?
Why I have this weird dreams after guru yoga?
I am from Poland I use google translator I do not know English
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:43 am

i would just focus on the guru yoga and not the dreams. dreams are dreams. not that worthy of paying attention and wasting day time consciousness energy to think about them. theyre already gone.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby Snovid » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:50 am

But the point is
my GY practice and this dreams are connected together.

I had no nightmares for many years
Now ,after GY, I still spend inside armoury.

I know it was just a dream
but the emotions are still present in me
and I can not get rid of them,it's so weird.
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:58 am

your probably purifying then just some karmic imprints and the subtle energies are disturbing you. dont pay attention or attach yourself to them too much. you wont find any benefit to your guru yoga from such dreams. purify them and let them go. anyway, thats my two cents.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby tatpurusa » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:58 am

This is just a normal purification process set in motion by your practice.
The vast majority of dreams are manifestations of karmic traces stored in the ālaya.
Just let it happen, they will pass.
Dream yoga practice would be very helpful, try to read ChNNR's book on it.
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby Snovid » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:12 am

Ok,thanks :)

try to read ChNNR's book on it.


This book?
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I wish thatno one in Poland has not issued this book
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Meaby some day...
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby Adamantine » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:39 am

Snowid wrote:Ok,thanks :)

try to read ChNNR's book on it.


This book?
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Yes, read that book.. it'd be very good. If you can't find it in poland, order it online from another country.
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby KonchokZoepa » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:13 pm

adamantine, if you read his signature youll find out that he most likely cant read books in english other than typing the whole thing in google translator.
If the thought of demons
Never rises in your mind,
You need not fear the demon hosts around you.
It is most important to tame your mind within....

In so far as the Ultimate, or the true nature of being is concerned,
there are neither buddhas or demons.
He who frees himself from fear and hope, evil and virtue,
will realize the insubstantial and groundless nature of confusion.
Samsara will then appear as the mahamudra itself….

-Milarepa

OMMANIPADMEHUNG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls6P9tOYmdo
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby tatpurusa » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:14 pm

If you cannot find a Polish translation of it, you can try also:

Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche:
The Tibetan Yogas Of Dream And Sleep

http://www.amazon.com/The-Tibetan-Yogas ... 1559391014

I know TWR has quite a lot of followers in Poland, so maybe that one has been translated.
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby Snovid » Sun Nov 24, 2013 12:26 pm

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This book is not available in Poland.

Other books are available :)
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby ClearblueSky » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:42 pm

Snowid wrote:But the point is
my GY practice and this dreams are connected together.

Perhaps that's a conclusion you should have your teacher decide instead. Either way, weird dreams can definitely be a result from practice, and it's not a bad thing so I wouldn't worry. Guru yoga is a practice that requires a transmission from a teacher, so if the dreams are disturbing you it may feel helpful to talk to them about it.
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby Snovid » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:03 pm

Once(before I came into contact with the teachings of Dzogchen)
I had a dream about a small prankster/imp/tike girl
I dreamed that she was talking kiri kiri kiri kiri kiri kiri kiri without stop and she laughed.

When I found Dzogchen books, I wrote to the ChNN about this dream
He replied me dreams do not mean anything, does not matter.
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby Sherlock » Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:30 pm

He is right.
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby kirtu » Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:46 am

To zależy. Nie powinno być zbyt wiele z naszych marzeń znaczenia, bo zazwyczaj jest to tylko karmic i psychologiczne bzdury. Ale czasami sny są znaczące.

It depends. We shouldn't make too much of our dreams because this is usually just karmic and mental nonsense. However sometimes dreams are significant.

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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby Lindama » Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:29 am

It depends. We shouldn't make too much of our dreams because this is usually just karmic and mental nonsense. However sometimes dreams are significant.
Kirt


Yes... if it is significant, you will see it. You need do nothing, or apply any effort. It's good to relax and be flexible and aware of what happens. Dreams can sometimes purify on their own as well. Be aware of your waking life as best you can.

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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby TaTa » Wed Nov 27, 2013 5:04 am

Lucid dreaming can be very helpfull to take advantage of those nightmares. There are some teachers that use both approachs, the one from modern psycology and the one from dream yoga without entering to much into the hardcore staff of dream yoga that might not be helpfull if you are not well prepeard and have a good guide. Alan wallace and the young charlie morley come to mind.
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby Snovid » Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:17 pm

Hm...I do everything what found in ChNN book about vizualization before sleep.
But I fall asleep and I dont know when.I lose consciousness...
meaby I need lung from another master,to a specific practice with mantras or something like this?

I visualize white A inchest
I visualizes red A in throat but I dont feel anything.
still fall asleep and do not know that I dream.


Alan Wallace and Charlie Morley ,they are interesting but
did they have initiations,lung etc?
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby philji » Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:11 pm

Snowid wrote:Hm...I do everything what found in ChNN book about vizualization before sleep.
But I fall asleep and I dont know when.I lose consciousness...
meaby I need lung from another master,to a specific practice with mantras or something like this?

I visualize white A inchest
I visualizes red A in throat but I dont feel anything.
still fall asleep and do not know that I dream.


Alan Wallace and Charlie Morley ,they are interesting but
did they have initiations,lung etc?



Allan Wallace I regard as do many as one of the better western teachers around today.. He has received instructions from many great masters including HH Dalai Lama and Dudjom Rinpoche. As for Charley Morley I cannot vouch....
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby Jesse » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:53 am

I have had 'Dreams', when my meditation vears a bit towards the sleepy side before. I specifically remember one where I fell asleep (I think), for a short moment, in the dream I awoke on a surgery table, with at least one doctor standing over me, in the dream I fell back asleep and I came back to meditating. It was a weird experience for sure. :P

In another I had a person give me the name of a book, or scripture to read, ("treatise on wisdom") I had never heard of it beforehand, after the dream I googled it and found it to be a real book, "Nagarjuna's Treatise on The Great Perfection of Wisdom", or at least that is the closest thing I could find to it. I at least found it interesting.
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Re: Guru Yoga and wierd dreams

Postby TaTa » Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:40 am

Snowid wrote:Hm...I do everything what found in ChNN book about vizualization before sleep.
But I fall asleep and I dont know when.I lose consciousness...
meaby I need lung from another master,to a specific practice with mantras or something like this?

I visualize white A inchest
I visualizes red A in throat but I dont feel anything.
still fall asleep and do not know that I dream.


Alan Wallace and Charlie Morley ,they are interesting but
did they have initiations,lung etc?


Alan wallace defintly. I know charlie morley has some intresting teachers like lama yeshe and so on but i dont reallt know. You dont need lung for taking advantage of lucid dreaming unless you are into more "hardcore" dream yoga practice. But you should discuss it with your teacher or some more expirience than me
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