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It's All in the Breath - Dhamma Wheel

It's All in the Breath

Exploring Theravāda's connections to other paths. What can we learn from other traditions, religions and philosophies?
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It's All in the Breath

Postby dhamma_newb » Tue May 15, 2012 10:47 pm

The watched mind brings happiness.
Dhp 36

I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
Walt Whitman

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby Goofaholix » Tue May 15, 2012 11:02 pm

While better breathing may have heath benefits Buddhist practise isn't interested in breathing better for it's own sake. Let us know what you learn from the podcast.

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby manas » Tue May 15, 2012 11:59 pm

Hi dhammanewbie,

everyone might have different opinions about breath meditation, but one way to try and solve this is to read, study and compare over and over, all the sutta material regarding breath meditation, and jhana cultivation, and delve a bit into the deeper meanings of key pali terms.

As time passes, I'm realizing something: no two great teachers seem to agree on every single detail regarding breath meditation. While that might seem confusing or daunting, I'm just deciding to accept that people seem to differ on views alot. That's life. I guess I'm saying, every one of us needs to find out for ourselves, by repeated study, comparison of the source materials, and relating what we are reading about with our personal experience. Again and again.

That's my offering anyway

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Then the Blessed One, picking up a tiny bit of dust with the tip of his fingernail, said to the monk, "There isn't even this much form...feeling...
perception...fabrications...consciousness that is constant, lasting, eternal, not subject to change, that will stay just as it is as long as eternity."

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby polarbear101 » Wed May 16, 2012 2:55 am

Woah! Thanks Dhamma-Newb, that was fascinating, I might just buy that program as well, it looks like it could be super helpful with truly understanding the breath and being able to do mindfulness of breathing all day long (or for as long as I can be mindful) and being more healthy while I'm at it.

Would you mind giving a quick review/rating of the actual program after you listen to it? It would be much appreciated.

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"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby dhamma_newb » Wed May 16, 2012 3:02 am

The watched mind brings happiness.
Dhp 36

I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
Walt Whitman

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby polarbear101 » Wed May 16, 2012 3:13 am

Sweet. Thanks :thumbsup:
"I don't envision a single thing that, when developed & cultivated, leads to such great benefit as the mind. The mind, when developed & cultivated, leads to great benefit."

"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby dhamma_newb » Wed May 16, 2012 10:53 am

Thanks Goofaholix. My meditation this evening went well and I was able to not worry about the breath.
The watched mind brings happiness.
Dhp 36

I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
Walt Whitman

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby daverupa » Thu May 17, 2012 12:55 am

The distinctions between breathing and other sensations are blended at anapanasati's third step, and broken down in the second tetrad.

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby dhamma_newb » Thu May 17, 2012 1:41 am

The watched mind brings happiness.
Dhp 36

I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
Walt Whitman

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby dhamma_newb » Thu May 17, 2012 1:42 am

The watched mind brings happiness.
Dhp 36

I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
Walt Whitman

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby dhamma_newb » Thu May 17, 2012 3:38 am

Just finished my evening meditation and now that I've been able to relax about my breathing I started to feel sensations in the abdomen. It wasn't a rising and falling movement though. It was a really uncomfortable pulsing,twitchy, flickering sensation right in and around the navel area. Felt like some kind of stuck energy or something. It took everything I had not to get off the cushion. Ever since I've left the retreat I've been having all kinds of strange sensations, especially in the head area.
The watched mind brings happiness.
Dhp 36

I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
Walt Whitman

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby retrofuturist » Thu May 17, 2012 4:55 am

"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby dhamma_newb » Thu May 17, 2012 8:28 am

Wow thanks Dave and Retro. I have much to learn!

:anjali:
The watched mind brings happiness.
Dhp 36

I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
Walt Whitman

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby daverupa » Thu May 17, 2012 11:09 am

(sorry for the jargon :anjali: )

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Re: It's All in the Breath

Postby dhamma_newb » Thu May 17, 2012 8:37 pm

The watched mind brings happiness.
Dhp 36

I am larger and better than I thought. I did not know I held so much goodness.
Walt Whitman

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