Buddhist Hate Crimes

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Re: Buddhist Hate Crimes

Postby Malcolm » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:56 pm

Jikan wrote:The Maoists are one faction among many with an interest in taking leadership in Nepal. Participatory democracy is like that--people try to take control of the country. And with an establishment of such delightful leaders as these, it's hard not to blame the Reds for thinking they just might do a better (fairer) job of it than this crowd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipendra_of_Nepal

Malcolm's right that the political situation in central Asia is very complicated.


I mean Bhutan...The Maoists already control Nepal.
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Re: Buddhist Hate Crimes

Postby Zhen Li » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:26 pm

Well, they recently lost power. But regardless, now the entire ritual and transcendential-social superstructure of Nepal is fundamentally screwed up because there is no King to officiate key rituals and at festivals for both Buddhists and Hindus. You simply can't elect corrupt and ambitious politicians, who've had no requisite abhisekas, to officiate at rituals where their role is, essentially, to function as an incarnation of Vishnu. That both reflects a clear lack of faith in these institutions (atheism) and a lack of understanding. But don't get me wrong, I am not in the least bit surprised that anyone would dislike the Shahs, but that doesn't mean monarchy as such ought to be abolished. It certainly does not mean Maoism is a requisite solution - unless you're a Maoist.
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Re: Buddhist Hate Crimes

Postby tellyontellyon » Sun Aug 10, 2014 2:01 pm

Back to the original post. :smile:

I don't say that Buddhists should feel guilty for the crimes of other Buddhists; however, Buddhists should care about the suffering of others and do whatever they can to make things better.

Not feeling shame or guilt about what other Buddhists do does not mean we can excuse ourselves for our own lack of response. It is that lack of response that I am critical of. To simply say something along the lines of: 'Well it's not my karma' is selfish and infantile. I think a Buddhist who only thinks about his or her own Karma has not got very far in their practice.

I feel Buddhists have a particular responsibility to criticise and highlight the bad actions of other Buddhists, otherwise our silence may give the impression that we don't oppose those sort of actions. That is bad for the spread of Buddhist Dharma in general that, at least in the West up till now, has a reputation for peace and tolerance. I think there is a lot at stake for the future of Buddhism and how it develops in the West.

In the same way, ordinary peace loving Muslims are not responsible for the actions of a few terrorists, but the condemnation of terrorism by Muslims helps to conteract those who want to portray all Muslims as terrorists. The same as when Jews condemn the actions of the Israeli govt in respect to the extreme attacks on Gaza, this can counteract the anti-semitism or anti-jewish attitudes that develop. That can help us to see beyond the simplistic notion that the problem is the jews, or the muslims or the Buddhists... the problem is the hateful and violent attitudes and actions in and of themselves regardles of the religion.
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Re: Buddhist Hate Crimes

Postby Jigme Tsultrim » Sun Aug 10, 2014 5:44 pm

It took a while, but somebody got it. YAY!--JT :applause:
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Re: Buddhist Hate Crimes

Postby Mkoll » Sun Aug 10, 2014 11:04 pm

tellyontellyon and JT,

What are each of you doing about the situation?
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Re: Buddhist Hate Crimes

Postby tlee » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:26 am

Not everyone is so advanced as those here *chuckles*.

Racism and xenophobia are contagious. If one group starts speaking about eliminating or subjugating the other, then people become afraid and mirror the hostility. Just look at WW2 with the Nazis and the Zionists trying to subjugate and eliminate each other.

I'm just glad that it wasn't Buddhism that set off this recent bout of xenophobia in South East Asia.

The media points to these people in monks robes and say "Buddhism is behind this"; but no, this is strictly against the vinaya. It is probably even a disrobing offense to recommend killing though I can't remember.

The Buddha did not advise this, and so it is not a Buddhist hate crime.
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Re: Buddhist Hate Crimes

Postby Sherab Dorje » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:20 am

If it is a hate crime, then it is not Buddhist.
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Meditation and conduct become delusion,
One will not attain the real result
One will be like a blind man who has no eyes."
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Re: Buddhist Hate Crimes

Postby tlee » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:45 am

The laws change so often. I'm not sure what the legal definition of a hate-crime is.
I can see instances where a Buddhist could be in line with the teachings and be legitimately sentenced for a hate-crime.

If you look at the international news right now it seems that many people are pushing to make criticizing Israel's occupation and attacks on what little remains of Palestine a hate-crime because of the pseudo religious nature of their country. So clearly the laws and popular definitions aren't always a measure of what is right or wrong.
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Re: Buddhist Hate Crimes

Postby jmlee369 » Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:09 pm

Jigme Tsultrim wrote:So is the larger Buddhist community not in any way responsible for bringing these crimes to account? Where is/was the outcry by the Tibetans, the Japanese, the Koreans, the Chinese, etc. For that matter what about the Politically Correct minions of the so called "developed" countries?
I know I am sickened and deeply ashamed. Are YOU??


http://www.hyunbulnews.com/news/article ... xno=276882

You may have missed the outcry from Korea because it was made in Korean.
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