Great Soto masters after Dogen?

Great Soto masters after Dogen?

Postby Luke » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:25 pm

Everybody knows that Dogen was a great Zen master, but were there any other Soto Zen masters who lived after him who were almost as great?
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Re: Great Soto masters after Dogen?

Postby Astus » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:58 pm

Keizan Jokin is regarded as the second founder of Soto Zen. Menzan Zuiho (1683-1769) made Dogen and his writings the central source of doctrine in Soto, and Gento Sokuchu de-emphasised the use of koans in Soto. In the modern era the most famous is probably Sawaki Kodo.

You may also look at this: History of the Soto Zen School
"There is no such thing as the real mind. Ridding yourself of delusion: that's the real mind."
(Sheng-yen: Getting the Buddha Mind, p 73)

“Don’t rashly seek the true Buddha;
True Buddha can’t be found.
Does marvelous nature and spirit
Need tempering or refinement?
Mind is this mind carefree;
This face, the face at birth."

(Nanyue Mingzan: Enjoying the Way, tr. Jeff Shore; T51n2076, p461b24-26)
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Re: Great Soto masters after Dogen?

Postby Beatzen » Fri May 10, 2013 6:08 pm

Astus wrote:Keizan Jokin is regarded as the second founder of Soto Zen. Menzan Zuiho (1683-1769) made Dogen and his writings the central source of doctrine in Soto, and Gento Sokuchu de-emphasised the use of koans in Soto. In the modern era the most famous is probably Sawaki Kodo.

You may also look at this: History of the Soto Zen School


Not attempting to nitpick, but it was my understanding that Dogen didn't emphasize Koan practice, either. To him, the world, or mind, as-it-is, is the Genjokoan. The mind is a koan that can liberate when penetrated.

Also, Taizan Maezumi Roshi was pretty famous... and he was a Soto lineage holder as well.
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