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Nagarjuna and Chandrakirti on the Chatuskoti

Postby michaelb » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:00 pm

I've been looking for discussion on the Chatuskoti in the MMK or Madhyamakavatara but can find any direct things saying things don't exist, don't not exist, etc. Stuff about production and that but nothing directly saying it.

Can anyone give me unequivocal citations for these from MMK, MA or elsewhere?
thanks
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Re: Nagarjuna and Chandrakirti on the Chatuskoti

Postby asunthatneversets » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:23 pm

A few from the Mulamadhyamakakarika:

MMK 5.6: If the existing thing (1) (bhava) does not exist, how then would the non-existing thing (2) (abhava) come into existence? And who holds: the existing-and-non-existing (3) thing which does not have the properties of an existing-and-non-existing thing (4)?

MMK 7.20: It is not possible that what has originated either exists or does not exist, Nor that what has not originated either exists or does not exist; this has been demonstrated earlier.

MMK 9.12: For him who does not exist previous to, at the same time, or after seeing, etc. The conception "He exists," "He does not exist," is dissipated.

MMK 15.5: If there is no proof of an existent thing, then a non-existent thing cannot be proved. Since people call the other-existence of an existent thing a "non-existent thing."

MMK 15.6: Those who perceive self-existence and other-existence, and an existent thing and a non-existent thing, Do not perceive the true nature of the Buddha's teaching.

MMK 15.10: "It is" is a notion of eternity. "It is not" is a nihilistic view. Therefore, one who is wise does not have recourse to "being" or "non-being."
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Re: Nagarjuna and Chandrakirti on the Chatuskoti

Postby michaelb » Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:31 am

thanks. Given the central importance of the chatuskoti to madhyamaka I was expecting something more explicit. Anything from Aryadeva or Chandrakirti?
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Re: Nagarjuna and Chandrakirti on the Chatuskoti

Postby jiashengrox » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:19 am

Chapter 12 of Mulamadhyamika made an explicit use of the chatuskoti to refute the inherent existence of suffering. To be exact, verse 1 of chapter 12:

Some assert that anguish arises from being made by self, made by other, by both, without cause. To do that is not suitable.

Then Nagarjuna continues to refute each of these cases. The commentary by Pingala, Buddhapalita, and Chandrakirti are quite extensive, which i shall not quote here.

Hope it helps! :namaste:
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which through knowledge of all leads Hearers seeking pacification to thorough peace
And which through knowledge of paths causes those helping transmigrators to achieve the welfare of the world,
And through possession of which the Subduers set forth these varieties endowed with all aspects.

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