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Christopher Hitchens departs

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Christopher Hitchens departs

Postby Kim OHara » Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:38 am

Just a couple of days ago I read this essay by Hitchens about dealing with terminal illness. A couple of minutes ago I saw the news that he has passed away:

I didn't know him or his work well but respected what I knew. I think the world is the poorer for the loss of such a fierce, stimulating intelligence.

:namaste:
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Re: Christopher Hitchens departs

Postby plwk » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:05 am

Aniccam, Dukkha, Anatta :candle:

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Re: Christopher Hitchens departs

Postby Ben » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:24 am

Yes, I just heard.
Sad news, indeed.
With metta to him and his family.

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Re: Christopher Hitchens departs

Postby Alexei » Fri Dec 16, 2011 5:05 pm

"God is not Great" didn't inspire me, but I do appreciate his intellect and wit.
Rather sad.
RIP




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Re: Christopher Hitchens departs

Postby Ben » Sun Dec 18, 2011 4:52 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Christopher Hitchens departs

Postby Ben » Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:43 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Christopher Hitchens departs

Postby tiltbillings » Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:38 am

While I agreed with him on his criticism of Mother Theresa, I found his support of the Iraq war both unintelligent and reprehensible.

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Re: Christopher Hitchens departs

Postby Ben » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:31 am

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Christopher Hitchens departs

Postby Sam Vara » Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:45 am

Initially, Hitchens was rather scathing about Buddhism is general. He did change his position as a result of reading Stephen Batchelor, however.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... m-hitchens

This gives a sense of his change, and why he made it.

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Re: Christopher Hitchens departs

Postby zavk » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:20 am

With metta,
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Re: Christopher Hitchens departs

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Re: Christopher Hitchens departs

Postby BubbaBuddhist » Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:55 pm

Ah yes. The best man I've ever known, was privileged to know, was my grandfather--A Christian. He died of a painful cancer and refused painkillers, because he wanted to meet Jesus with a clear mind. He never gave in to the pain, was unfailingly kind and polite to the people who helped him, and died peacefully. I was very young when he died, but recall the docs and nurses telling my mom and grandmother how deeply moved they were by him. He gave pieces of candy to the nurses and aides to show his appreciation for the things they did for him. This, while cancer ate away at him. I could tell many stories of him, but there would be no point. Suffice to say he was a man who thought of others before he thought of himself. I have read hundreds of suttas, sat through uncountable dhamma talks, and yet the two most important lessons I've ever learned I got from him before I was five years old. These two lessons are the bedrock of my personal philosophy to this day. I've pretty much given up on the 4 Noble Truths. Too abstract. My Grampa was a practical man, as am I.

I think of him whenever I hear bitter atheists rail against the stupidity of 'religion.' Usually, in the midst of an alcoholic fog to deaden the agony of their existence. It isn't 'religion' that's the problem. It's intolerance; and politics, and money and sex. In other words: people. People screw up everything they touch.

I'm sorry Mr Hitchens died such an awful death. I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone. I hope he found some measure of solace, as my grandfather did, before he went into the final darkness.

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