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Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:08 pm
by Inge
Do you know how to comission Lamas to perform the Naga offering puja?
Do you know if the Naga Torma - Lutor - offered at
http://monlam.org/moreprayers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is a naga offering puja?
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:22 pm
by Josef
You can learn to do these for yourself as well.
It would probably be better if you did.
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:42 pm
by Inge
Nangwa wrote:You can learn to do these for yourself as well.
It would probably be better if you did.
The practice for the naga booklet does not provide sufficient instructions for doing the practice, and I don't have someone to ask (no DC-group here in Norway). Are you familiar with this practice?
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:06 pm
by Arnoud
You could try it here:
http://www.monlam.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Good luck.
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 12:15 am
by Tilopa
Inge wrote:Do you know how to comission Lamas to perform the Naga offering puja? Do you know if the Naga Torma - Lutor - offered at
http://monlam.org/moreprayers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is a naga offering puja?
Yes Lutor is an offering to the nagas usually performed to help overcome sickness and spirit interference but may also be done to appease local nagas if building in or moving to a new area or dwelling. There can be other reasons as well. Best not to do it yourself unless you have been advised by a Lama and even then you have to be careful to follow the prescribed method on the astrologically correct days. Not doing it properly can lead to increased harm.
You can write to Lamas or monasteries and request they perform the ritual on your behalf. There is an excellent puja by request service here:
http://kopanmonastery.com/pujas_request.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:16 am
by Konchog1
Tilopa wrote:Inge wrote:Do you know how to comission Lamas to perform the Naga offering puja? Do you know if the Naga Torma - Lutor - offered at
http://monlam.org/moreprayers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is a naga offering puja?
Yes Lutor is an offering to the nagas usually performed to help overcome sickness and spirit interference but may also be done to appease local nagas if building in or moving to a new area or dwelling. There can be other reasons as well. Best not to do it yourself unless you have been advised by a Lama and even then you have to be careful to follow the prescribed method on the astrologically correct days. Not doing it properly can lead to increased harm.
You can write to Lamas or monasteries and request they perform the ritual on your behalf. There is an excellent puja by request service here:
http://kopanmonastery.com/pujas_request.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
How would offerings made in Kopan appease the Nagas living under your house?
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:33 am
by Tilopa
Konchog1 wrote:How would offerings made in Kopan appease the Nagas living under your house?
How pujas work is a magical and mysterious aspect of Mahayana/Vajrayana practice somehow related to karma, interdependence and the power of the Dharma but it's hard to understand and explain so I don't really know the answer to your question. There are many things to take into account and the specific problem, type of puja, where it's done, when, by whom and how often are all relevant considerations. For certainty it's best to check with a qualified Lama. A puja performed in Nepal for a naga interference at your house in another country is not guaranteed to work as it might need to be done on site, but it often will.
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:31 pm
by Grigoris
I would reccomend you go find a lama to teach it to you.
It's actually quite a short and simple practice (the torma is a little strange, but not really complicated)
You don't have to get it from DC, all traditions do the practice (Hindus too).
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:52 pm
by Inge
Tilopa wrote:You can write to Lamas or monasteries and request they perform the ritual on your behalf. There is an excellent puja by request service here:
http://kopanmonastery.com/pujas_request.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Great, I did not know of this service. Thanks.
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:54 pm
by Inge
gregkavarnos wrote:I would reccomend you go find a lama to teach it to you.
It's actually quite a short and simple practice (the torma is a little strange, but not really complicated)
You don't have to get it from DC, all traditions do the practice (Hindus too).
That's an option I hadn't even considered. So thank you for that reccomendation.
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:05 pm
by Blue Garuda
Either that, or seek an empowerment and learn one of the Garuda sadhanas for dealing with Nagas, spirits, sicknesses etc.
Some are very powerful.
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:35 am
by Grigoris
Placation is always easier than attempting to overpower.
The weakest can easily placate even the strongest foe through offering.
Overpowering and destruction should always be the last options taken.
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:30 am
by Blue Garuda
gregkavarnos wrote:Placation is always easier than attempting to overpower.
The weakest can easily placate even the strongest foe through offering.
Overpowering and destruction should always be the last options taken.
Garuda practices offer those options. For example in the Multicoloured (rainbow) Garuda Yidam practice, after meditation wishing all beings may experience equanimity, loving kindness, compassion and joyfulness, there is the generation of special bodhichitta and the Nagas are offered care and refuge, and there is also the possibility of wrathful action, including action as Garuda Vajrapani.
Others, such as the Fire Sword of Black Garuda, contain both pacifying and wrathful mantras and actions.
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:55 pm
by pemachophel
We do Naga puja (along with Naga sang and Naga apology/amendment) at least once per month. In fact, we're doing Naga puja this afternoon. If anyone wants to make an offering for one of our regularly scheduled Naga pujas or wants to commission a special one, PM me. We can arrange something via Paypal.
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:00 pm
by Malcolm
Sherab Dorje wrote:Placation is always easier than attempting to overpower.
The weakest can easily placate even the strongest foe through offering.
Overpowering and destruction should always be the last options taken.
Sometimes, you have to straight to the nuclear option.
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 8:48 pm
by Grigoris
Malcolm wrote:Sometimes, you have to straight to the nuclear option.
In most cases people do not have a little red button to push so it's just not an option...
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:49 pm
by pemachophel
I'll be doing Naga Amendment (from the Zung-du) at 5 PM today MDT. If anyone would like me to remember them or someone close to them, let me know by 4 PM MDT this afternoon. Happy to be of service.
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:12 am
by buddhagirl
pemachophel wrote: ↑Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:55 pm
We do Naga puja (along with Naga sang and Naga apology/amendment) at least once per month. In fact, we're doing Naga puja this afternoon. If anyone wants to make an offering for one of our regularly scheduled Naga pujas or wants to commission a special one, PM me. We can arrange something via Paypal.
Hi is this offer still valid?!! Are you part of a Dharma centre? thanks
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:58 pm
by pemachophel
Yes, we do Naga puja at least once a month. In fact, we just did it yesterday afternoon. Oct. 19, 21, 23, 24, 27, and 29 are all Lu-theb days this month. We won't do a full Naga puja again this month, but if you need me to, I can do Naga sang and/or Naga amendment on one of these days. You'd need to send me your details and requests. PM me here. I usually check DW 3x per day.
Re: Comissioning Naga offering pujas
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:00 pm
by pemachophel
Sorry, I forgot to answer the second part of your question. Yes, I am the resident Lama for the Boulder Valley Ngakpa Center in Lafayette, CO.
BTW, yesterday, Chimechodra from DW attended our Naga puja. Nice to meet him and hope that he joins us again.