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- Fri May 12, 2023 2:16 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
- Replies: 173
- Views: 14224
Re: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
Are they really incompatible? Prasanga and Uttaratantrashastra. I mean lhundrub being a quality of kadak and the basis being nonarising and deathless doesn't seem so far fetched really Yes I believe I misspoke there. The 9 examples are naturally compatible with prasangika. I meant there is a merely...
- Fri May 12, 2023 2:10 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
- Replies: 173
- Views: 14224
Re: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
This is all resolved, simply put, through understanding tathātagarbha to be tathāta itself. It's right there in the name. Tathāta itself is the garbha of a tathāgata. If the first nine examples are taken literally, then yes, there is the problem of atmanavada. As far as the qualities go, the qualit...
- Thu May 11, 2023 3:10 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
- Replies: 173
- Views: 14224
Re: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
The nine examples have both a definitive understanding, compatible with prasanga, and an understanding that is an atmavada at worst, and false aspectarian yogacara at best. To render the nine examples compatible with prasanga would require you to deny many passages in the Uttaratantrashastra itself...
- Wed May 10, 2023 2:14 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
- Replies: 173
- Views: 14224
Re: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
Malcolm, if Longchenpa (and Gorampa) accept the Uttaratantrashastra as definitive meaning, then do they not accept the famous and central claim there that the element is empty of adventitious stains but not empty of unsurpassable qualities? And if they accept that statement as definitive, is that co...
- Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:43 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
- Replies: 173
- Views: 14224
Re: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
From my reading of Mipham, I think he also says the ultimate is empty AND full of qualities, and that is partly why I created this topic, to see if there are any traditions that are truly rangtong(reject the qualities and say that the ultimate is a blank nothingness). However as per stong gzugs in ...
- Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:32 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
- Replies: 173
- Views: 14224
Re: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
Again, zhentong is not reducible to statements by Dolpopa (or jamgon Kongtrul) about the three natures. Again, this is proven by the centrality of the Uttaratantrashastra in the zhentong lineage, which does not even mention the three natures. True, just accepting the Uttaratantrashastra does not mak...
- Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:13 pm
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
- Replies: 173
- Views: 14224
Re: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
There is no CEO of Nyingma Sure there is. Two actually: Guru Padmasambhava and Longchenpa. (Although I wouldn’t use the term “CEO”) Oh and some would add Rongzompa and Ju Mipham. Folks on here so often quibble with the detail in order to miss the main point. None of these masters rejected or insult...
- Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:07 pm
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
- Replies: 173
- Views: 14224
Re: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
He certainly accepted the ten tathagatagarbha sutras as definitive.However, he never resorted to using the three natures to explain the two truths, which is a key feature of gzhan stong analytics. He also never suggests that the basis is anything other than free from all extremes, while simultaneou...
- Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:46 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
- Replies: 173
- Views: 14224
Re: Clarification on Nyingma view of emptiness
In any case, the Nyingma view of emptiness is Prasanga, not gzhan stong. There is no CEO of Nyingma so no 'THE Nyingma view of zhentong'. But there are the views of individual Nyingma masters. The Five Dharmas of Maitreya were translated in the early period of dharma in Tibet and transmitted in con...
- Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:39 pm
- Forum: Kagyu
- Topic: Video on Gompopa and Buddha Nature.
- Replies: 17
- Views: 1992
Re: Video on Gompopa and Buddha Nature.
BTW its Gampopa not Gompopa. 'Lamrim' generally refers to texts that use Atisha's model of the 'Inferior, Middling and Superior Persons' from his Lamp of the Path of Enlightenment. Jewel Ornament of Liberation does not use this model but that of the five families of the Uttarantantrasastra. As such ...
- Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:31 pm
- Forum: Kagyu
- Topic: Dagpo Kagyu empowerments
- Replies: 40
- Views: 7000
Re: Dagpo Kagyu empowerments
By the way, on the subject of the Kamtsang Dorje Phagmo lineage, while Kagyupas do of course say that it comes from Tilopa and Naropa, according to the three primary instruction lineages which Pawo Tusglag Trengwa consolidated in his definitive guide to the development stage (the one Sarah Harding p...
- Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:11 pm
- Forum: Kagyu
- Topic: Dagpo Kagyu empowerments
- Replies: 40
- Views: 7000
Re: Dagpo Kagyu empowerments
Does this Kamtsang Mahamudra instruction also accrod with what SaPan calls 'resultant gnosis of the creation and completion stages' after having recieved the four empowerents in highest Yoga tantras? SaPan implies by 'Gnosis [ye shes] risen from initiations' Mahamudra as a knowledge resulting from ...
- Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:13 pm
- Forum: Kagyu
- Topic: Joint Statement of the Two Karmapas
- Replies: 95
- Views: 22894
Re: Joint Statement of the Two Karmapas
Don't know how they are going to heal the rift I guess they can work together to ensure we only have one 18th Karmapa, one Shamarpa etc. going forward. The rift can easily be healed if there is the will from this generation of lamas. This is such wonderful news for both 'sides'. Karmapa khyenno!!
- Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:55 pm
- Forum: Lounge
- Topic: Big messages to deplorables ???
- Replies: 139
- Views: 22553
Re: Big messages to deplorables ???
The question is: How do you dismantle Trumpism without triggering a reflexive Republican heel dig-in? You take seriously the concerns of the Trump base that led them to vote for him in the first place, which are primarily economic. You stop calling them morons, stupid, deplorables, and racists, whi...
- Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:52 am
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: The DJKR Topic
- Replies: 687
- Views: 117775
Re: The DJKR Topic
Discuss your view of DJKR. I have never met him but I find it refreshing that there is a Tibetan Lama who does not take seriously concepts like 'rape culture' and 'patriarchy'. These are political concepts, grounded in a strand of postmodern thought originating in the 1970's and 80's unknown to the...
- Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:47 pm
- Forum: Dzogchen
- Topic: "highest practices" and anti-intellectualism
- Replies: 521
- Views: 89899
Re: "highest practices" and anti-intellectualism
Milarepa's encounter with Dzogchen is a cautionary tale for all would-be simultaneists!
- Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:44 pm
- Forum: Mahāyāna Buddhism
- Topic: The attainment of the Arhats
- Replies: 155
- Views: 31717
Re: The attainment of the Arhats
Vibhuticandra says much the same thing in his commentary on the Bodhicaryāvatāra : With respect to the traces of emptiness, since ṡrāvakas and so on cannot bear the fact that all phenomena are empty, it is said they are liberated solely through seeing four truths of nobles. Since they obtain freedo...
- Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:21 pm
- Forum: Sakya
- Topic: What is the Sakya assertion of how conventional phenomena exists?
- Replies: 1
- Views: 1798
Re: What is the Sakya assertion of how conventional phenomena exists?
Ultimately, C. Conventionally, yogins see things as 'like' illusions, while ordinary people see them as real. This is just as Shantideva and the Indian madhyamakas understood it.
- Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:01 pm
- Forum: Kagyu
- Topic: Does Karmapa return to Rumtek soon?
- Replies: 48
- Views: 11941
Re: Does Karmapa return to Rumtek soon?
Here is a recent, impartial assessment of the general Indo-China situation, with reference to the Karmapa issue, from IDSA, an Indian think tank: http://www.css.ethz.ch/en/services/digi ... e5d54dc8e1
- Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:08 pm
- Forum: Tibetan Buddhism
- Topic: What is terma?
- Replies: 16
- Views: 5090
Re: What is terma?
I have no idea if Shakyamuni Buddha mentioned terma, but the appearance of Guru Padmasambhava was prophesied many times in various sutras. According to my teacher, since sutras such as the Perfection of Wisdom were hidden and protected by the nagas, they are a type of terma. The mode of transmissio...