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- Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:39 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Conceptuality in Buddhism
For those who like lots of words (which is not me), the following may be of interest. Lots of references and stuff. http://www.westernbuddhistreview.com/vol4/was_the_buddha_omniscient.html Of particular interest is this bit: Monks, the world is fully comprehended by a Tathaagata. From the world a Ta...
- Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:15 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Conceptuality in Buddhism
As objects can not appear or disappear in empty space as such must draw from a present event a considered future event. If the present event is studied with completness is it not possible to predict a future event? I drop a penny in a still lake and see one the first wave reach the shore of the lak...
- Sat Dec 03, 2011 5:37 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Conceptuality in Buddhism
You misinterpret the text because you conflate impossible entities with future objects. No, I most definitely do not conflate impossible entities with future objects. As I stated in my previous response to you, there most definitely will be a future. This is a certainty. And this future is a future...
- Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:06 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Conceptuality in Buddhism
Richard Linde is famous for making things up as they go along. That is not at all true. All I ask is that people use reason to support their arguments, rather than relying on the fallacy of appeal to authority (false authority, usually). That's not much to ask on an academic forum, is it? Where can...
- Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:00 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Conceptuality in Buddhism
I had thought the Mahayana position on omniscience was summed up nicely in the quote from Ornament of Clear Realisation that I referenced quite a few posts ago. Perhaps you didn't see my response. I don't believe you understood the text you were quoting. I will respond again. "a final exalted ...
- Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:16 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Conceptuality in Buddhism
Apparently, you are completely and totally ignorant of Mahāyāna positions. Where can I read the official Mahayana position? Who decides what the official Mahayana position is? Is there a team of people who get together and decide which Sutras are to be held to be authoritative, and exactly how thos...
- Sat Dec 03, 2011 3:13 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Conceptuality in Buddhism
My understanding comes straight from the Diamond Sutra: It is because the mind is unreal that all past, present and future minds are known to the Tathagata. This is just your interpretation of the Sutra, rather than what the Sutra actually says. Knowing past, present, and future minds is NOT the sa...
- Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:12 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Conceptuality in Buddhism
Yes, that is the Mahāyāna definition of omniscience. Who is it who is making these definitions on behalf of the whole of the Mahayana? I am a Mahayanist, and I don't grant them permission to do so. I think they are giving the Mahayana a bad name. Acchantika says "If it is possible to know any ...
- Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:59 pm
- Forum: Kagyu
- Topic: Kalu Rinpoche shocking news!
- Replies: 129
- Views: 34129
Re: Kalu Rinpoche shocking news!
The unrealistic expectations that are placed on these young men is itself a form of abuse.
And taking the money of those who are full of those unrealistic expectations is yet another form of abuse.
And taking the money of those who are full of those unrealistic expectations is yet another form of abuse.
- Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:28 pm
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Conceptuality in Buddhism
I am interested in the apparent lack of congruence between Theravadra and Mahayana. It's not like all Theravadins believe one thing and all Mahayanists believe another. Thankfully, some few people follow their own conscience rather than go along with the party line. There are two main camps: those ...
- Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:07 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Conceptuality in Buddhism
From all the Theravadra Sutta and commentaries I have read (and quoted from in another thread http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=5911&start=20#p68443" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ) it is clear that the Buddha is considered omniscient. What is it that...
- Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:54 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Conceptuality in Buddhism
let's talk about conceptuality in Buddhism, or what you are essentially positing, the conceptual mind of the Buddha. I am only arguing that Buddhas have concepts. I don't know about any "conceptual mind". Mariusz says, Without concepts does not mean "beyond concepts". It has to ...
- Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:13 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Madyamika Sautrantika vs Prasangika
The future according to arguments of Nagarjuna ialso "seems to be" only and never will be. even the presence is not possible to be. For buddhas there are not such reference points. So what does Nagarjuna have to say about whether a Buddha can know the details of future events with certain...
- Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:49 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Madyamika Sautrantika vs Prasangika
Yes, but what does that have to do with the ability to predict the details of future events with 100% accuracy?Mariusz wrote:unblurred unimpared vision (omniscience)
An unblurred, unimpaired vision doesn't help one to see a square circle.
- Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:42 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Madyamika Sautrantika vs Prasangika
Nor is an appeal to the authority of logical proof superior to your appeal to the authority of your reading of the sutra passage. The only way to judge whether anything in the sutras, or translations of sutras, is of value is through the use of logic. This is why the reading of sutras must always d...
- Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:30 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Madyamika Sautrantika vs Prasangika
I would never say that anyone knows things by way of conception, since it is unnecessary to do so. Inference ... ? One can't know anything for certain by way of inference. Deduction, perhaps. Let's say that a person has worked out, in their head, that 2 + 2 - 4 = 0 In this case I could say that a p...
- Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:14 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Madyamika Sautrantika vs Prasangika
Santideva could also explain that Buddhas don't have any choice about whether they appear or not, for the reason that if the causes are in place for Buddhas to appear then they will appear, regardless of what anyone wants. Buddhas must bow to the power of cause and effect, since they are not omnipo...
- Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:10 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Madyamika Sautrantika vs Prasangika
So the Buddha does not say "I do not know" but "It will be hard for you to understand." Nobody translates the text as "It will be hard for you to understand" - at least, nobody that you quoted. More importantly, since this is an academic forum, I would like to see an a...
- Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:04 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Madyamika Sautrantika vs Prasangika
The appearance of the Buddha using concepts does not necessitate that the Buddha knows things by way of conception. I would never say that anyone knows things by way of conception, since it is unnecessary to do so. Either people appear to have concepts or they don't, and if they do then we say they...
- Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:32 am
- Forum: Academic Discussion
- Topic: Conceptuality in Buddhism
- Replies: 211
- Views: 43612
Re: Madyamika Sautrantika vs Prasangika
It is common knowledge that the Buddha taught in dependence upon the capacity of the student. It's common knowledge that whenever the Buddha says something that is entirely reasonable, that people don't want to believe, they dismiss it by saying that it was a special teaching designed only for a pa...