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- Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:39 am
- Forum: Introductions
- Topic: hello to all
- Replies: 1
- Views: 1119
Re: hello to all
Hi Gena! Welcome to the forum.
- Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:10 pm
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
You played your role well, Acchantika. No need to be sorry.
- Wed Sep 28, 2011 6:07 pm
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
I've used the words "discernment and moral reasoning" a dozen times in this topic, at least once on every page except for the first page. If I " equate the two " then why say one and the other? Discernment, reasoning, whatever we call it, is a form of conceptual activity. It is ...
- Wed Sep 28, 2011 2:39 am
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
What do you think the difference is between discrimination and discernment? I think: In an everyday intellectual context, discernment means conceptual assessment of variances and discrimination means selective treatment on the basis of that recognition. These are the kinds your notion of moral reas...
- Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:26 pm
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
I'd like to respond to your last post, but I would first ask that you please reconsider the parts where you are telling me what I'm saying and what I mean. It is pointless to discuss things this way, and it's rather rude. This is completely misinterpreting what was intended. Your statements make it...
- Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:52 am
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Acchantika I'd like to respond to your last post, but I would first ask that you please reconsider the parts where you are telling me what I'm saying and what I mean. It is pointless to discuss things this way, and it's rather rude. If you are unclear about something or not sure what I mean you can ...
- Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:02 am
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
The boundaries of any system are defined arbitrarily. The boundaries of a system are defined by the system(s). By trying to analyse the conventional as absolute we are taking it to be an attempt to represent reality through concepts. It isn't that, it's a means, not an end. Yes indeed. If every sit...
- Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:04 pm
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
I believe this also expresses a devaluation of moral reasoning or as he puts it "simplistic moralism." What I think you are not open to is that you are trying to analyse a system of thought in terms of it being a mere organisation of concepts, which it isn't. Hello Acchantika What are you...
- Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:04 pm
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Well, no, I meant it more like I wrote above, that some Zen institutions in the West may be placing too much emphasis on emptiness and not enough on a more full expression of Buddhism. A lot of sitting and devaluation of discernment and moral reasoning make Zen master a bad boy, essentially. Can yo...
- Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:39 am
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
When misconduct does happen in 'religious' settings, the perpetrator generally maintains a level of denial. He may know it is wrong and make up some excuse, but the excuse will not be something ( a tenet of his beliefs ) that he is willing to 'tarnish'. Generally, it isn't what the preacher profess...
- Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:16 pm
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
I've just been thinking lately that some Zen institutions in the West may be placing so much emphasis on emptiness that they've lost sight of Buddhism, and that's what might account for the many scandals in Western Zen that we've been hearing about. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think what you ar...
- Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:09 pm
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
The poll does not ask voters to express Zen. It would be nice though if they did.DarwidHalim wrote:What is Zen? Zen is simply a symbol which refer to the reality, which can only be experienced and cannot be utter by words.
So Zen is inexpressible.
How can you ask something which is inexpressible?
- Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:05 pm
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
An ambiguous question + binary answering option = bad survey. I mean no offense, but I do think you should be open to the possibility that the difficulty in communicating could just as well be at your own side as with a general population of Western zen practitioners. The poll performed it's functi...
- Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:26 pm
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Research of emptiness and $3.98 will get you a 711 Big Gulp, alwayson, or a reasonable facsimile. Do you by chance mean experience or realizaiton of emptiness? Click Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9A%C5%ABnyat%C4%81" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I stand corrected....
- Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:36 am
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Not to suggest that there is no such thing as non-duality, no, of course not. The existence of non-duality is beyond questioning. A) There is no such a thing as non-duality B) The existene of non-duality is not beyond question in any sense. N I was being sarcastical. And yes I know, that's not a wo...
- Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:19 am
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Research of emptiness and $3.98 will get you a 711 Big Gulp, alwayson, or a reasonable facsimile. Do you by chance mean experience or realizaiton of emptiness?
- Fri Sep 23, 2011 4:40 am
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
I think it will give you an understanding of what going beyond dualistic thinking is, and that also includes the tendency to define things as either rational or irrational. Hello PadmaVonSamba I will try to explain again. Here's the first stanza of SHINJIN-NO-MEI The Perfect Way knows no difficulti...
- Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:18 am
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
I think you misunderstand what PadmaVonSamba said. Rational/irrational (as judged by someone not adept in Buddhism) isn't of concern to them. Yes exactly, the judgement of Zen being characterized as rational or not (you wrote irrational ) is irrelevant to those who are not constrained by that belie...
- Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:12 am
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
Yes, poor Achilles.
- Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:05 am
- Forum: Zen
- Topic: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
- Replies: 141
- Views: 38496
Re: Zen and the dogma of non-duality
If you are making a poll whether Zen is rational or irrational, Vajrayana practitioners are going to say irrational. Because Vajrayana practitioners look down on Zen. http://www.dharmawheel.net/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=5341" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Nowhere in the pol...